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The recession will become worse, possibly a Japanese style recession.

  • Will take place on December 31, 2008
  • Predicted on April 10, 2008
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The current economic recession that is already underway in the USA is going to become worse. While it may not become a Depression, it will at the very least become a major, long-term recession like the kind the Japanese experianced. That recession lasted over ten years. This recession will not be a short one. The economy will continue to shrink for at least the next two years due to at least one million or more homes being dumped on the US market within the next year. It will stagnate for at least two more. And it will take at least four more years to begin, to start to improve.

What is happening now will lead to a chain-reaction of greatly reduced confidence in the economy by Joe Q. public. Reduced spending from all sectors, the public, government and business. Greatly reduced hiring by business as well as diminished growth forecasts by the business sector. This will lead to even more fear, even more reduced spending and an almost stagnate job market.

All the while you will continue to hear politicians, many in big business as well as some in the media continue to play this recession down. They do this since if the public loses more confidence than they already have, purse strings get tightened. Spending slows. This is also an election year.

The Republicans won´t speak of the economy except in a good light and because any downturn in the economy will be seen as mostly the current president´s fault. Democrats won´t speak of a bad economy except to get votes. When they get in, they will realize that short of retooling the economy towards an energy-independent, greener and more high-tech economy. They won´t be able to stop the recession from getting progressively worse either. But, it is an election year, do not waist your time waiting for the truth from your leaders, it won´t happen. If it hasn´t happened in good times, why would you expect it now? In an election year? If the truth comes from a politician, especially from one of the presidential candidates, I will be happy, over-joyed, but I won´t wait for it.

The government will not be able to intervene as most folks thought because The federal, state and local governments will be bringing in less money from local, state and federal taxes due to people spending less, making less money and property values continuing to plummet.

The final sign to know that what I am predicting is about to pass is that governments, all of them in the USA, federal, state and local governments will begin to reduce government payrolls (job losses in all levels of government) due to the reduced amount of money they will be bringing in.

You will then see a economic stagnation of at least two to four more years. WIth the government of the USA trying to create infrastructure improvement projects within the country so as to employ more of the growing unemployed and they may possibly start another long, expensive war during these bad times. The latter is something that has been employed by many a government, including the USA in bad times since you cannot have a revolt if you send those most likely to revolt off to war.

This prediction will not come true if governments do the following: invest in new technologies, greener technologies and greatly reduce the bloated military budget which is not protecting American sovereignty at our borders but defending Saudi Royalty, oil wells and other ¨strategic interests¨. Doing the above may not stop the recession but it will greatly reduce it´s damaging impact.

I hope none of this happens. I really don´t I would love to be wrong on this one.

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When you read the date listed above, please be mindful that I did not quite know how to list the date properly. The correct dates for my prediction are: December 31, 2008 to start. And December 31, 2012 as the date when the economy stops getting worse. Again, I hope my prediction is wrong.

Kevin Larson

There will not be a recession, only a short term slow down. The economy is still growing, but very slowly.

Mcneil

I agree with above poster. The economy will be fine in the short term. With the increase in supply of oil mixed with the decreasing demand for gas at higher prices will make the cost of oil per barrel decrease. People have already started to change their habits of driving so local retailers will take a hit, but online purchases will start to increase with more home deliveries.

Toller

There wont be a recession similar to Japanese style. However, the growth would take a hit. If it were Japanese style recesion, entire economic growth would come to a standstill

marc

I do agree, from the outside, the situation of USA economy is seen more and more as a war economy which is really hidding the permanently decreasing internal consumption and competitivity.

goreano

To save the economy, we need to drastically lower taxes, but since most people don't pay taxes, no votes for it even though they all know its right to cut taxes.

They all think that your just giving a break to the rich guy when you cut his taxes. They don't realize that it actually helps poor people long term to let him have his money rather than give it to the government to spend on poor people. The voting class are destroying themselves, because all they can think of is to take money from people that make it. They do not even know how to make money by working to take it from other countries, so our dollar falls as we become more socialist.

Wayne Cobb

marc posted, "However, the growth would take a hit. If it were Japanese style recession, entire economic growth would come to a standstill"

You just watch. That will happen or come dangerously close to it. I base this assessment and my prediction partly on the premise that when you raise the cost of living through fuel and food. When you have stagnate wage growth. When you have a steadily growing number of companies out there that are putting a halt to expansion or seriously limiting their expansion and putting a freeze on hiring. When you have millions of home owners on very shaky ground with their home-ownership situation and millions that have been foreclosed on. When you have a populace that sees negative job growth and a growing sense of incompetence coming from the party in power. When you have all this and even more. People hold onto their dollars. They don't buy more, they don't even buy the same amount. They buy less goods in an attempt to shelter themselves.

This means reduced growth and so much more all across the board. This so-called "light-recession" isn’t going ANYWHERE soon.

So, short of a green-collar revolution combined with an alternative energy revolution, some strong will to see this through and lot of luck we may not avoid my prediction. I hope we do though. I really, really, really do.

Kevin Larson

Unfortunately, it looks as if the home foreclosure portion of my prediction is fast becoming fact. I predicted a million or more being dumped on the market within the next year.

"Total filings (home foreclosures) rose 8 percent from the previous month to 272,171, just shy of the record 273,001 set in May, said RealtyTrac, which has a database of more than 1.5 million properties. Through July, 775,244 properties were owned by banks, compared with about 445,000 for all of 2007 and about 224,000 in 2006, Sharga said. "

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=apnc1udScGEY&refer=us

Kevin Larson

It's so depressing. what is wrong with this country
inflation is at 17 year high. soon i won't be able to afford rent.

Bobby Munoz

The USA has only one card for her survival and its called OIL! The sad truth is, the USA depends on her enemies for her survival. No wonder we hear about OIL a hundred times every day. Americans consist of only 4% of world population but they consume more than one third of all oil supply. For whatever is worth!

Huffaker

I hear you Bobby, I rent too. Actually, today I read an article where there were some fairly optimistic realtors who were thinking out loud that maybe the housing market has bottomed out and it's all recovery from here on out.

How I wish they were right. But I am afraid they are not. In cities like Houston, where I live, you could actually make a case for that kind of optimism. Cities like Houston didn't soar to the ridiculous price hights that markets elsewhere did. There were only "moderate" spikes in home prices here and now, with the downturn in the economy, you are seeing only "moderate" downturns in price. Home prices are actually quite reasonable here compared to damn near everywhere else in the country. And Houston is backed up with a vibrant economy that seems to be riding out the hard times in comfortable fashion. But that ain't the case elsewhere.

Most cities suffered from extravigant price hikes in homes. Your "average" family was expected to afford a $500,000.00 home (that is half a MILLION dollars!) and not complain about it since, it was a "buyers market"...cough, cough...BULLSHIT!... In many of the prime markets, an average home rose to over $750,000.00! Three-quarters-of-a-million-dollars! Now WHO in their right mind thought that THOSE prices were reasonable? It was greed, mindless greed pure and simple.

But, when you have easy loans, eager home buyers and slick real estate agents, what then? You get tons of loans approved for families who even in good times, couldn't afford those shakey loans. You also get tons of home building companies making many more homes than the market needs.

However, even in Houston, where the home loan situation was a moderate rise and fall you still have the problem that most real estate agents I know of are running into. Even with folks that still have their jobs, even folks who live in a moderately or lightly affected city like Houston with reasonable credit are having a HELL of a ti

Kevin Larson

...a HELL of a time qualifying for a new home.

So until house prices stabilize at a much lower rate in many of the markets. Folks work through their debts and build up their credit ratings. None of us will see the housing "boom times" again for quite some time. I'm not being pessimistic, just realistic.

Kevin Larson

We can getting dangerously closer and closer towards your prediction. what a sad time to be in.

Nellie Berry

Like I said before, this is NOT something I care to be right on. However, the writing has been on the wall for many years. Why the Yale and Harvard graduates running this country didn't see that, who the hell knows?

Kevin Larson

A great interview with Sir Charles Branson who predicts a similiar Japanese style recession as I do.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3146954&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/yourworld/

Kevin Larson

Remember when I said, "The final sign to know that what I am predicting is about to pass is that governments, all of them in the USA, federal, state and local governments will begin to reduce government payrolls (job losses in all levels of government) due to the reduced amount of money they will be bringing in."

Monthly Job Cuts Across 41 States

http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/21/news/economy/state_unemployment/?postversion=2008102117

Kevin Larson

I am also known as kevlarman on this site. Just in case you wanted to track my other predictions.

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